Thursday, October 30, 2025

Shutdown not helping Dems, might be helping GOP

HARRY ENTEN, CNN: You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge of both the House and the Senate, that a government shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand " but in fact, it hasn't.

If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a look here " the shift in net popularity versus pre-shutdown. When we're looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand is actually up two points. That's within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn't dropped.

Come over to this side of the screen " look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. It's actually up five points since pre-shutdown

Comments

Republican Party overall, that brand is actually up two points.

Posted by BellRinger

How under water is it to begin with?

This is why people don't like you.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 08:10 AM

Republican Party overall, that brand is actually up two points.

Posted by BellRinger

What's the margin of freaking error?

It has to be true that someone pays you to do this.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 08:28 AM

-How under water is it to begin with?

The republican party? The party that controls the white house, congress and the supreme court?

Not to mention state legislatures and governors' mansions?

it's under water?

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 09:01 AM

"It has to be true that someone pays you to do this.

This is why people don't like you."

He posts something from CNN and you make it all about him.

I know you're depressed, and this information isn't helping.

But don't embarrass yourself further, Zed.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 09:05 AM

"a government shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand"

If Republicans were worried about that, they wouldn't have built a Fabulous Gilded Ball Room while people lose their Obamacare and SNAP.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 09:14 AM

it's under water?

#3 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Obtuse.

Do better.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 09:37 AM

He posts something from CNN and you make it all about him.

#4 | POSTED BY EBERLY

On day when Trump will have QRFs in American states, he doesn't deserve any respect.

A nasty man carrying water for a nasty man.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 09:40 AM

JFC, you're barely speaking English anymore, Zed.

You're that over the cliff.

For all we know, you're a very nasty man, Zed.

You attack people who won't tell you what you want to hear. It's that simple.

You're more like Trump than you think, Zed.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 09:47 AM

you're barely speaking English anymore, Zed.

#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I hope my migrant status isn't become obvious.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 09:49 AM

You're that over the cliff.

#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

And you're bored.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 09:50 AM

Eb's loves him some Trump, his every utterance in the "Oh So Reasonable" tone he Affects every time the Dotard comes up makes that obvious to anyone paying attention.

He's a Troll, and a Liar.

Pretending to be Reasonable but Actually... Not.

Worst kind of Asshole. One who seems to be Kind and Reasonable,on the Surface.

To make it easier to do real damage later.

"I feign not Love where I Hate" is basic honesty. Something he completely lacks.

Eb's is an Insurance guy. Slimy by Trade. Covering true intentions with bullshit is standard operating procedure by Insurance companies.

He's probably good at lying to just about anyone.

I Hate a Liar... Full Stop.

"I Feign not Love where I Hate".

#11 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-30 09:57 AM

sniff sniff sniff.....speaking of "nasty" man. PEW!

LOL

Effeteantisemite has a long history here under multiple names. I would imagine the outward antisemitism has gotten him banned in the past and from multiple sites. So he's clearly gotten used to packing up his shit, and leaving only to come back under a new name.

"do real damage later."

I've been posting here for almost 20 years. Under the same name. What real damage can I cause?

other than some hurt feelings....which no doubt I've caused.

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 10:04 AM

#11 Yeppers Eberly is the drizzling sheets. There's no question about that.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-10-30 10:10 AM

-Eberly is the drizzling sheets.

That's a reflection of you, Laura.

What position have I taken that you disagree with?

What politician do I support that you disagree with?

What issue have we gone nose to nose on that you feel you've been shitted on?

Or........is all of this just a reflection of your thin skin?

You attack but you can't take the attack. Admit it for once.

#14 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 10:30 AM

Eberly doesn't plonk people. I respect that.

CENSORED plonks and is a Hasbara Troll.

He's the real Asshole on this site.

Eberly is really not that bad....I could actually respect him.. if he stopped acting so "Concerned" about being "Reasonable" when the Times are anything but....

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-30 10:30 AM

To arrive at the definitive answer, I support letting it play out.

#16 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-10-30 10:34 AM

-I support letting it play out.

exactly. I usually rag on polls for not measuring how much people care.

That could be a factor here as well.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 10:38 AM

When people Really "Care" is when the SHTF.

You better hope they don't care much.

100,000,000+ Guns on the street.

Caring is going to get people killed in big bleeding batches.

Access to Basic Goods and Services, meaning Funding for Healthcare and SNAP is just common sense to prevent social unrest in trying times.

Trump WANTS THE CONFRONTATION. He's doing everything possible to provoke Violent upheaval from below.

Now the Pentagon is preparing two Divisions to Wage War on AMERICANS.

Eberly says that's Nothing to be "Concerned" about.

But Zed getting upset about it is?

WTF?

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-30 10:53 AM

" A nasty man carrying water for a nasty man.

#7 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2025-10-30 09:40 AM | FLAG: "

I posted a CNN analysis about how the shutdown is affecting Dems and the GOP in the eyes of-the public.

This is why I've been encouraging you to see a counselor. You take a polling analysis and project hatred toward me for posting it. It's unhealthy.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-10-30 12:42 PM

"You take a polling analysis and project hatred toward me for posting it. It's unhealthy."

you're polite and caring enough to reach out to Zed and help him.

Others here who fancy themselves as good people wouldn't dare do that. Turns out they can't stand Zed and wish he would STFU.

Helping him would interrupt their attacks on folks like you and me. Which is all they want to do.

God forbid they address the substance of the article.

Attack......not discuss. This was from CNN so it shuts most of them up.

As I said yesterday.....these problems really hit home for some here and their anger is understandable.

It's not because they know something or possess any enlightenment....they're just angry and hostile.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 12:46 PM

"Turns out they can't stand Zed and wish he would STFU"

20 | Posted by eberly

Bit of projection here, wot?

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 12:51 PM

This is why I've been encouraging you to see a counselor

#19 | Posted by BellRinger

Tell you what, concede that Trump is mentally ill and I'll go.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 12:53 PM

To arrive at the definitive answer, I support letting it play out.
#16 | POSTED BY FRESNO500

Agreed.

What the thread poster left out is this article is based on a poll, and depending where it was taken, you can get any result you desire.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 12:57 PM

Trump is mentally ill.

I have no problem conceding that.

This is a good example of your craziness, Zed.

Acceptance of that doesn't really matter to you. Perhaps you're unaware of that.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 12:57 PM

23

The fact this is based on a poll is 100% obvious to anybody who clicked on it.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 12:58 PM

Trump is mentally ill.

#24 | Posted by eberly

Thanks, EB.

Now let BELLRINGER use his words.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 12:59 PM

The fact this is based on a poll is 100% obvious to anybody who clicked on it.
#25 | POSTED BY EBERLY

What's your point?

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:03 PM

Thanks, EB.
Now let BELLRINGER use his words.
#26 | POSTED BY ZED

He can't.

Eberly has a habit of licking rightwinger taint.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:04 PM

-What's your point?

That the thread poster didn't leave anything out. It spelled out and obvious.

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:05 PM

-licking rightwinger taint.

It all tastes the same

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:07 PM

That the thread poster didn't leave anything out.

He added to the thread title that this is based on polls?

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:07 PM

It all tastes the same
#30 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I'll take your word for it.

Hope he showered.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:09 PM

"If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a look here " the shift in net popularity versus pre-shutdown. When we're looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand is actually up two points. That's within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn't dropped."

Where do you think that comes from?

A Ouija board?

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:10 PM

The shutdown is 100% on the Republicans.

They sank their own bipartisan border bill when Trump told them to and they're unwilling to compromise on current legislation.

Trump thinks he's king of America and the Republican Party is in agreement.

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:11 PM

"Turns out they can't stand Zed and wish he would STFU."

You are certainly not speaking for me. I don't feel that way at all.

I feel Zeds reactions to what is happening in America are actually quite normal.

Over 7 million Americans clearly support the same positions that Zed has been supporting.

And no they are not all old white women as you would try and have us believe. I went to a No Kings rally. Every type of American living in my community was represented there.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 01:12 PM

Where do you think that comes from?
#33 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You didn't read the article?

" ... the results of new polls from AP-NORC and Quinnipiac on how the public is responding to the partial government shutdown."

Though, they didn't link to the polls, so I guess we're expected to just take their word for it.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:15 PM

Turns out they can't stand Zed and wish he would STFU.

Who's the "they" in your sentence?

The gerbils in your pockets?

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 01:17 PM

-Over 7 million Americans clearly support the same positions that Zed has been supporting.

Zed supports a position? Seriously?

What positions does Zed support?

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:40 PM

-Who's the "they" in your sentence?

Don't allow yourself to be baited like that.

I think Zed generates a chuckle from the likes of you and Donner. I'm not serious when I say you want him to STFU.

I don't think you want him to talk to you......but you love it when it expresses himself the way he does.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:44 PM

What positions does Zed support?

#38 | Posted by eberly

I've told you:

Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 01:46 PM

What positions does Zed support?

#38 | Posted by eberly

Someone got the better of you in an exchange. You're scrambling.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 01:47 PM

38 | Posted by eberly

Perhaps you should quit before I punish you with yet more metacommunication?

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 01:49 PM

-And no they are not all old white women as you would try and have us believe.

When did I try to get anyone to believe that?

When it was a thread, I asked why it is but they weren't my facts and anybody was free to challenge the premise.

I've never been to any of those rallies.....I don't know who is going and who isn't.

Jesus.....I am a massively powerful figure here.

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:51 PM

-Perhaps you should quit before I punish you with yet more metacommunication?

I have to get somewhere but when I return I know Donner won't offer up any kind of reasonable response.

Because you don't communicate actual positions. Just contempt for the president and other republicans.

and that's fine......I'm not suggesting you should have one or that you should bother to communicate one.

just stick with the contempt and the cutesy humor because it's your thing.

But Donner wants to declare he's supportive of your positions.....and he's never read one.

I'm not attacking you Zed although it probably feels like it. You're in perpetual victimhood all the time. So is Boazboy and Gerbilshack.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 01:56 PM

Another thread splattered with beverley vomit.

What an absolute cesspool.

#45 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-10-30 02:04 PM

#46 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-30 02:08 PM

Jesus.....I am a massively powerful figure here.

POSTED BY EBERLY

"The people say it is a pail of strong excrement, and its odor is such, that none may abide by it."

"Maga maroons say is a container of fertilizer and none may deny it's strength."

"Eberly believes It is very powerful, and contains that which promotes growth."

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-30 02:12 PM

@#34 ... The shutdown is 100% on the Republicans.

They sank their own bipartisan border bill when Trump told them to and they're unwilling to compromise on current legislation.

Trump thinks he's king of America and the Republican Party is in agreement. ...

That's the way it is looking, who needs a functional Congress when you are king?

... with Spkr Johnson Pres Trump apparent goal of moving Congress out of governing.



#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 02:22 PM

@#48

... with Spkr Johnson Pres Trump apparent goal of moving Congress out of governing.

-- should be --

... with Spkr Johnson helping with Pres Trump's apparent goal of moving Congress out of governing.

#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 02:23 PM

I'm not attacking you Zed

#44 | Posted by eberly

You can attack my persona all you want.

It's stronger than you.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 02:56 PM

"Jesus.....I am a massively powerful figure here."

Indeed.

So much so, that Sinclair Lewis wrote book about you:

en.wikipedia.org">Babbitt

#51 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-10-30 03:34 PM

51

did he? What's it called?

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 03:43 PM

And no they are not all old white women as you would try and have us believe.
- whoever

Lol, this type of response is hilarious, it's actually a meme

NAXALT.

#53 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 04:11 PM

That's the way it is looking, who needs a functional Congress when you are king?
- gaslighter

Then why are Democrats letting Trump be king?
It makes no sense.

#54 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 04:12 PM

Democrats are fighting gutting healthcare to give billionaires a tax cut.

Why is giving billionaires a tax cut more important to republicans than providing poor Americans with healthcare?

As for Trump, the more that buffoon gets alone time, the more the nation can see what a disaster he is for the country.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 04:16 PM

"Screw the hungry, the poor, and the homeless."
Signed,
Dummkopf Trumpf and the Oligarchs

#56 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-10-30 04:23 PM

I usually rag on polls for not measuring how much people care.
- eberlythegreatone

The question I have is the military not getting paid really played into the Ds hands.
A Republican stepped up and donated

Why aren't Democrat billionaires helping their cause, like subsidies for health insurance. It's being used against Democrats pretty heavily, and looks bad for Obama.

#57 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 04:27 PM

@aswinn

John Thune and his feckless GOP coalition are growing increasingly furious with the Democrats, and it's because for the first time in history, the Democrats are refusing to be rolled over, which the GOP 100% counted on. They have absolutely no idea what to do now, and it is fucking amazing. Keep punching air, John. You look like a goddamn court jester.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 04:38 PM

Why aren't Democratic billionaires helping their cause,

They are.

They're busy donating money to food banks and charities.

Why don't Republicans want to help Americans? Because they don't care about anyone but themselves.

Billionaires could wipe out hunger in America if they wanted to.

But they don't.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 04:42 PM

-They're busy donating money to food banks and charities.

that would be a great news item.

But as Oneironthecommieagitator pointed out, a republican and his charity is what's in the news.

Is there a similar story which makes democrats look as good?

You might make the distinction between a republican billionaire and a democrat billionaire but America certainly does not.

I don't disagree with what they may or may not be doing but this thread is about how the GOP isn't taking the hit we think they should for the shutdown.

Is it possible that......once again.....the republicans show they know how to manage the PR and successfully blame the other side for what is clearly their fault?

#60 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 05:04 PM

If Americans are as Stupid as you it will be a snap. You clearly are convinced.

I'm betting they are because Trump won without even Lying about wanting a dictatorship, with him in Charge.

Our Experiment in Self Government is coming to a Brutal, self inflicted End.

And people like you say it's inevitable and not a Big deal.

Just a little bump in the road to Paradise.

And for good MAGA like yourself asking for little, and not making waves it may be.

For a While.

#61 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-30 05:16 PM

White is Right.

Money Talks.

Oligarchy means Never Having to say You're Sorry.

Fascism has Clear winners and Losers.

Until the System itself Implodes by Violence, Internal or External.

No Justice means Endless WAR.

#62 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-30 05:21 PM

-You clearly are convinced.

of what?

"White is Right.
Money Talks.
Oligarchy means Never Having to say You're Sorry.
Fascism has Clear winners and Losers.
Until the System itself Implodes by Violence, Internal or External.
No Justice means Endless WAR."

Wow, you really hate Jews, don't you?

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 05:26 PM

They're busy donating money to food banks and charities.
- whoever.

Oh so that's why donations are down?

As EberlyDaGreat said, not a good look all around I guess.

#64 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-10-30 05:33 PM

Oneironthecommieagitator

EberlyDaGreat

You two are adorable.

I always find it quite interesting how quickly Eberly bonds with our resident trolls.

#65 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 05:37 PM

a republican and his charity is what's in the news.

"Charity"

A private citizen paying for the military makes it a private military.

America has stopped being a functioning nation.

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 05:40 PM

"The $130 million donation from a Trump donor will cover about seven hours of active-duty military pay during a government shutdown."

So basically, it was done for show.

So idiots like OneTrumper can get his rocks off thinking about how generous Republican billionaires are.

#67 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 05:43 PM

-A private citizen paying for the military makes it a private military.

6 six pack thinks it's charity

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 06:21 PM

That's the problem with social media.

Morons telling other morons what to think.

The proverbial blind leading the blind.

#69 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-30 06:37 PM

@#69 ... That's the problem with social media.

Morons telling other morons what to think. ...

I disagree.

If I may be so bold to reword it ...

... That's the problem with social media.

Morons telling other morons what they want to hear. ...


... The proverbial blind leading the blind. ...

Yup. 100% agreement on that part.


#70 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 07:48 PM

6 six pack thinks it's charity
#68 | Posted by eberly

They believe in ghosts too.
It sure would be bad for the country if someone decided to exploit these rubes, dontcha think?
But what would a Republican know about that.

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-30 08:00 PM

"Tell you what, concede that Trump is mentally ill and I'll go.

#22 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-30 12:53 PM | Reply | Flag:"

He is an extreme narcissist with an overly inflated ego.

Does that translate to mental illness? Perhaps on some kind of a scale it does, but on that scale you display a greater degree of mental illness than Trump.

#72 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-10-30 08:06 PM

#63. ??? I Guess?.

What do "The Jews" have to do with my Rant?

WTF?

You got reading Comprehension issues, perchance?

Look again,you quoted it.

Just good old American Corruption, no talk of Jews, Foreign or Domestic.

Yer Hallucinatin'

#73 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-10-30 08:31 PM

@#72 ... He is an extreme narcissist with an overly inflated ego.

Does that translate to mental illness? ...

Perhaps it does, when combined with the many verbal faux pas he has said publicly.

But I admit that I am not qualified to judge any mental illness aspect of Pres Trump.

And, if I may say, neither does your current alias seem to be qualified to say that, I'll be kind, his transgressions are not a symptom of a mental illness.


#74 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 08:57 PM

"But I admit that I am not qualified to judge any mental illness aspect of Pres Trump."

Well then, it's a good thing we're blessed here with at least a dozen qualified judges of his mental illness.

#75 | Posted by eberly at 2025-10-30 09:05 PM

@#74 ... But I admit that I am not qualified to judge any mental illness aspect of Pres Trump. ...

But, then I will also say that his comments do raise a concern, a significant concern, for me.

And I do not seem to be the only person in that regard ...

Trump 'cognitive decline and dementia' searches blocked? Google AI overview under fire for biased filtering (October 1, 2025)
economictimes.indiatimes.com

... Synopsis

Google is facing serious accusations about its alleged AI response to information on President Donald Trump's mental health. Google appears to have blocked certain artificial intelligence search results for queries about President Donald Trump's mental acuity. But Google does provide an AI summary about former President Joe Biden, who was criticized for his mental acuity during the 2024 presidential run. ...



#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:20 PM

Just a reminder

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

#77 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-10-30 09:21 PM

@#76

Probably not one wants to see about their President.


#78 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:21 PM

@#77 ... I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. ...

Yup.

I seem to remember that trolling current alias stating at one time that its aim was multiple responses to its reply.


#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-30 09:27 PM

Fox News Host Jessica Tarlov:

"With great power comes great responsibility. Republicans may not have 60 Senate votes, but they hold the gavel, and that means it's on them to negotiate. You CANNOT keep the government closed, refuse to talk, and then blame Democrats for the mess YOU CREATED!"

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